Survey for English teachers, what do the deductive and inductive grammar mean and which one do you u

[postgrd student]

Asslamo Alikom all brothers and sisters,
I have a question for teachers of English for the purpose of my research. What do the deductive and inductive grammar mean and which one do you use in your teaching and why? I hope that I will obtain sufficent answers.
thx a lot.
Waiting for your responses.


N.B. for the supervisors, if you think that this section is not the right place to post this topic, feel free to move it.

[postgrd student]

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[falcon5]

deductive grammar teaching is based on facts and statements, it is also based on proir logic. Therefore the learners are told the grammatical rule and will work from that.

inductive grammr teaching is based on trial and error, experiments. The learners learn from trying different things, seeing what works and what does not. through experimenting they figure out the grammatical rules.

[أم عجلان]

As falcon5 already said...I use both but mostly deductive one

[postgrd student]

Thanks a lot sister and brother. I am waiting for others opinions because I wanaa see how r u looking for these kinds of grammar teaching.

[postgrd student]

اخواني واخواتي المعلمات...هل يعقل انه لايوجد احد يعرف الفرق بينهم؟

[ايمان بلال]

deductive and inductive grammar

Deductive way applies a general rule to particular instances while inductive way involves inference from the particular to the general.



Deductive learning occurs when teacher gives the rule in an explicit
way and then encourages learners to apply it by giving examples and leads them to practice.


On the other hand, inductive learning works differently by giving examples in order to get learners notice the rule



بمعنى أن طريقة deductive استنتاجية تعرض قاعدة عامة وثم تُطبق من خلال الأمثلة .

أما طريقة inductive استقرائية تعرض الأمثلة التي من خلالها نصل الى القاعدة ( العكس ).

[postgrd student]

ماشاء الله عليك يا ايمان...جزاكي الله خير....
طيب ودي بوجهة نظرك عند تطبيقها في التدريس...اريد ذلك بالتفصيل...

[ايمان بلال]

You're most welcome


back to the topic

DEDUCTIVE WAY

Rules and examples are given first by the teacher

Example
Students can understand expression of comparing persons , things and objects




INDUCTIVE WAY

Students discover the rules and patterns from the context with the teacher guidance

Example

Students do comparative quiz , use meaningful context, check the answers, focus on forms of comparative ,working out the rules, until reach the basic rule.

[postgrd student]

May Allah bless you Emanb, bu what do you think when you are teaching in your context. Which one is better and why? which one do you think is more effective, and why?
I need full details please about youe perspectives of applying them. Do the teacher book obligate you to choose one of them, or it is up to you? which one do you think students can understand when you use it?

regards,

[ايمان بلال]

I think deductive way is better

It provides the learners with the ready grammar rules

It offers a clear clarification of English items, which makes the

learning task easier

It gets straight to the point, and therefore can be time-saving


I recommended using it



Thank you for giving me this opportunity to clarify my point of view


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[postgrd student]

Hi Eman,
May Allah reward you and I would like to thank you as well for showing your opinions. However, have you ever applied the iductive way in your teaching? Another point, do you think the lesson plan in the teacher book is inductive or deductive one? if so, d you think teachers can change the way of teaching and why??


We are still waiting for other teachers!

[ايمان بلال]

Once, I applied the inductive method with a group of excellent students in the college and it was succeeded.

I am an administrative supervisor and I have less experience in lesson plan than the other teachers.
Sorry for not given you an appropriate answer .


With my best regards

[postgrd student]

Thanks a lot my sister for your response. I understand that u r teaching a university level? are not u? Do u mean that the inductive way in teaching grammar r more effective with thoses students who have high proficency level in English?


Waiting for other teachers responses!

[postgrd student]

Waiting for other responses.

[postgrd student]

Why the Saudi teachers in Saudi English are passive?????
All the important topics that I have posted and needed to your thoughts, I could not gain a sufficent data of your opinions, I am upset really with your activity.....

[ايمان بلال]

Thanks a lot my sister for your response. I understand that u r teaching a university level? are not u? Do u mean that the inductive way in teaching grammar r more effective with thoses students who have high proficency level in English?


Waiting for other teachers responses!

Certainly

Inductive grammar can be effective with

A small number of excellent students


thanks a lot

[postgrd student]

thanks a lot Eman. Waiting for others!